Ep 7. 2 Geminis With Mics - Tarot & Tea - 2 of Wands & Everything in Between!

Ep. 7 – Tarot & Tea: Two of Wands & 19 Freedom

In this episode of 2 Geminis With Mics, Brooklyn & Keshia sip tea, spill tea, and dive into the bold messages of the Two of Wands (Golden Art Nouveau Tarot) and 19. Freedom (Urban Crow Oracle).

We explore vision, choice, and personal independence plus what it really means to break free from limitations, both in tarot and in real life. Along the way, we talk cosmic timing, fate, and… whether throwing spaghetti at the wall (or ceiling) is a fine art. 

Grab your favorite mug, shuffle your deck, and join us for a conversation that’s equal parts magic, laughter, and deep reflection.

Timestamps:

03:00 – Keshia pulls the Two of Wands

08:15 – Brooklyn pulls Freedom (Urban Crow Oracle)

24:46 – “For Centuries” T-shirt moment

27:51 – The time Brooklyn got fired

28:16 – 28:57 – Spaghetti against the wall

34:33 – Astrology podcast mention + future episode teaser

Links & Resources:

    •    Nuvo Tarot – Keshia’s deck 

    •    Urban Crow Oracle – Brooklyn’s deck 

    •    Two of Wands meaning – Labyrinthos

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https://www.astro-seek.com/

https://cafeastrology.com/

Transcript

Keshia 0:22

Hey everyone, it's your two favorite Geminis here. We're just here with a quick, quick disclaimer about the upcoming episode that some people might find some portions of it emotionally triggering,

Brooklyn 0:34

and we would also like to note that this video is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only, and it should not be taken as professional advice.

Keshia 0:45

Yes, these are our own personal opinions and experiences.

Brooklyn 0:50

Thanks for listening.

Keshia 0:52

Love you, ma. Hello everyone. Welcome back to two Geminis with mics where these two Geminis explore different topics of the cosmos through astrology and tarot. Um, today we're just gonna do a t. Uh, and tarot. So we're gonna, you've seen it Before we pull a card, uh, this time we're gonna pull two cards. Uh, Brooklyn is gonna pull an Oracle card and I'm gonna pull a tarot card and we're gonna see, uh, and then we'll discuss the lines where they enter, cross update you on our lives, um, and go from there. How are you doing?

Brooklyn 1:34

Hi.

Keshia 1:34

from you.

Brooklyn 1:35

How are you, Keisha?

Keshia 1:37

You know,

Brooklyn 1:39

We're here. We

Keshia 1:40

we're, we're alive. We've survived 2025 up to this point, which is saying something. Oh my God,

Brooklyn 1:48

It's been a banner year as they've been calling it

Keshia 1:51

oh my God.

Brooklyn 1:51

astrological world.

Keshia 1:53

Like history in the making. Like we're just watching history. I, nobody told me history in the making would be so stressful

Brooklyn 2:01

Literally

Keshia 2:02

like put you in fight and flight.

Brooklyn 2:04

constant, constant fight and flight for the last two years. We come out of it and then go back into it.

Keshia 2:11

Yes, exactly.

Brooklyn 2:13

I'm so grateful for the tool belts or the tools that we have in our belts right now.'cause learning how

Keshia 2:19

Yeah.

Brooklyn 2:19

manage, fight and flight has definitely been top priority on our lists.

Keshia 2:25

And probably one of the hardest, I gotta find something softer to put my mug down on.'cause I just watched. Yeah, I'm gonna use my mouse pad.

Brooklyn 2:34

There we go.

Keshia 2:36

It's gross anyway, so if it gets tea on it. Um, oh my god, my post-its, I lost, sorry. I also work at this desk. Um, yeah. So first we'll get pulling our cards I guess. Do you want me to go first?

Brooklyn 2:52

Yeah, you go first

Keshia 2:53

Okay.'cause that's gonna kind of decide our topic. Um,

Brooklyn 2:57

because she's doing a tarot card and then I'm gonna do an Oracle card.

Keshia 3:01

I'm using Golden Art, Novo Tarot. This is like one of my favorites. So the box is like Hagar and missing pieces.

Brooklyn 3:09

I love it. The gold foil

Keshia 3:11

Yeah.

Brooklyn 3:11

cards

Keshia 3:12

I love them.

Brooklyn 3:13

the best. I don't have

Keshia 3:16

Oh my god.

Brooklyn 3:16

it's on my top list. I want one so bad.

Keshia 3:20

Two of ones.

Brooklyn 3:21

Aw, beautiful.

Keshia 3:24

We will, I'll read the full description of that after we get the Oracle card. Um, so while you're pulling that, um, we can talk about our lives and I'll also look up, um. The specific meaning for this where if you were to Google it, what you would get kind of thing? Um, for me it's basically when I see this card, I think of decision making, maybe Chris creative decision making or active decision making. Um, trying to make that plan for the step forward, which is kind of. Funny, it's like, uh, mercury retrograde is changing all my plans right now, so, um, we're just in the shadow phases of Mercury retrograde, but over the course of the coming weeks, we're gonna see that go backwards and everything, um, have to be revisited

Brooklyn 4:19

Yes, and I'm just gonna put a date timestamp on it because we've been doing that

Keshia 4:24

Yes, please.

Brooklyn 4:25

astro girlies. Um, it is July 6th, 2025 and the time that we started recording was 11:00 AM Current time right now is 1104.

Keshia 4:37

I was like,

Brooklyn 4:38

all you astro people know.

Keshia 4:41

we're in different time zones, so I was like,

Brooklyn 4:43

Oh

Keshia 4:43

it's 1204. Thanks anyway. Okay. I'm not taking the AI response because I just, no. Um,

Brooklyn 4:54

AI as much as

Keshia 4:54

yeah.

Brooklyn 4:55

because we

Keshia 4:56

not saying we don't, but we try not to.

Brooklyn 4:59

definitely.

Keshia 5:00

okay, so for two of ones, um, this is just the description. The upright meaning of the two oh ones would be considered, um, a more mature vision of the a o ones, meaning that this tarot card is all about planning and moving forward progression. Look at it this way, if you have already set out to achieve a particular task, which means you have turned an idea into a realistic plan, such as a plan will require fulfillment, such a plan will require fulfillment, and therefore you have to progress from just having the plan to actually achieving what you set out for discovering a. Discovery is being considered as another two of wands, meaning this is because it means that you're stepping out of the cocoon and exploring new experiences and worlds. While the beginning might seem tough and difficult, the two of Wands cards encourages to strive and push forward. There is some more there. This is from the website we always typically go to read from because it's something that I used a lot when I was learning. Um, yeah, right there. Le Le.

Brooklyn 6:04

I

Keshia 6:04

Lab.

Brooklyn 6:05

say it either.

Keshia 6:05

Me either Laos, L-A-B-Y-R-I-N-T-H-O-S. And it's a very popular, it has an app in everything. Very popular website.

Brooklyn 6:16

Yes.

Keshia 6:17

I don't use the app. I kind of don't need to use this for reference anymore, but, um, I like to read it out in case somebody wants specifics. My nose is already running.

Brooklyn 6:28

I like also just going through it to be reminded of the terms are because I use reversal and upright, um, and sometimes I get the two mixed up. So for me, I use it for reference all the time.

Keshia 6:44

Mm-hmm.

Brooklyn 6:46

But yeah, I feel like that is just so beautiful because we have slowly trying to come back and re-figure out, um, a consistent schedule for the podcast. But with the way that this year has turned out, of us haven't been able to get

Keshia 7:05

Oh my God. Oh

Brooklyn 7:06

other than in

Keshia 7:07

my God.

Brooklyn 7:07

We were together once this year in person. But then took that as an opportunity to go full vacation mode

Keshia 7:14

Yeah, we didn't do that at all, which we usually do anyway. We're like, we'll record, we'll get a bunch of content, it'll be great, and then we just end up hanging out.'cause we don't get to do that very often. Um, my, um, my arm for my microphone is actually still in pieces from that trip down there, so. Yeah, I'm using, I don't have the fancy arm. I've also lost my spot because I now have, um, I have like a support thing for my screen, so I can't turn it around. And Fred is loving that. He gets to steal my podcast chair, so it, I guess it's a win-win. Um, anyway, what, uh, what car did you pull?

Brooklyn 7:55

Oh, I haven't even pulled one yet.

Keshia 7:57

Oh.

Brooklyn 7:58

Um,

Keshia 7:59

If you don't keep us on task, what do you think's gonna happen? Oh, no. Well, not, oh no. Oh, that's weird. Um, so she, 19

Brooklyn 8:11

Ooh.

Keshia 8:13

I, she pulled from what deck again?

Brooklyn 8:16

Oh, sorry. This is

Keshia 8:18

crow

Brooklyn 8:19

Keisha got me for my birthday last year or the year before

Keshia 8:23

time has blurred together. I don't even remember.

Brooklyn 8:25

in the last year or two. just gonna move it so everyone can see the full

Keshia 8:30

So urban Crow, Oracle for those who aren't watching the video, um, you're good. Uh, yeah. So, um, yeah, I like pulling an oracle and a tarot because then it almost shows you like the topic of the tarot card. That it's really, I feel like it gives you that double up sense

Brooklyn 8:50

Mm-hmm.

Keshia 8:51

where you're like, oh, okay, wants me to look at this angle.

Brooklyn 8:56

Yes.

Keshia 8:56

freedom.

Brooklyn 8:57

with, the two of Wands and then Freedom, two of Wands leaving comfort, taking risk making decisions, first steps, planning freedom. Um,

Keshia 9:14

All those things are almost required if you're feeling like you don't have freedom and you,

Brooklyn 9:17

well, and like

Keshia 9:19

in this objective sense of what freedom means to us, probably in Canada. Um.

Brooklyn 9:26

And this podcast for me and you like, this is taught me, this is where we get to be free. This is our freedom. Like this is,

Keshia 9:33

freedom of speech too. It's really acting on that. And like, again, referencing back to, I've often been going through my life lately and just like trying to look at things from a perspective of not having those rights as a woman, um, because I'm gonna say it, Handmaid's Tale changed my life.

Brooklyn 9:51

Yeah.

Keshia 9:52

It changed my life. Like it, did it mess up my brain a little bit? Yes, probably. It's a little traumatic. It's a little traumatic, but like this is why stories are so important. They change people's life.

Brooklyn 10:05

Mm-hmm.

Keshia 10:06

life, and it literally, oh my god,

Brooklyn 10:09

It

Keshia 10:09

so much perspective.

Brooklyn 10:11

to realize, hello,

Keshia 10:13

Yeah.

Brooklyn 10:14

not as safe as we may seem. And not only us, but people around the world.

Keshia 10:21

Yeah,

Brooklyn 10:21

to advocate for people around the world because we are safe and we want every human being to be as safe as we are.

Keshia 10:29

and I think there's always going to be people in our world, in our universe or whatever, that they want to rule over people. They want to harm other people. They don't. It's not for the better of the good. It's for the better of them.

Brooklyn 10:42

Agreed.

Keshia 10:44

And it's just like. Why we all believed we all bleed the same damn color. It's, we're all people, we all have the same organs. Like what the hell guys?

Brooklyn 10:57

yep.

Keshia 10:58

It's truly none of our business.

Brooklyn 10:59

blood is blood. We are all made up of the same

Keshia 11:04

yeah. And especially like if you get down to it on a cellular level like it, but again, it's just. Yeah. Anyway, the hate in the world right now is, um, it's getting to me,

Brooklyn 11:17

Mm-hmm.

Keshia 11:19

heart. Yeah.

Brooklyn 11:21

I'm gonna quickly read the'cause. In Oracle cards, every card represents a different meaning in whichever deck that you're pulling. So 19 in this Oracle deck doesn't necessarily mean 19 in a different Oracle

Keshia 11:37

Mm-hmm.

Brooklyn 11:37

Um, so,

Keshia 11:39

would almost put it as, um, tarot decks are like a, like you can get almost any message from a tarot. Like it might not be the actual meaning. You might look at something, see that world and like in the picture and derive something different. Whereas an oracle deck comes with a actual red out, meaning that you don't necessarily have to fill the lines all in with

Brooklyn 12:02

It comes with a message.

Keshia 12:03

Yeah. Which she's gonna read.

Brooklyn 12:07

So this one was 19 Freedom. Freedom brings the message that you do not need to stay where you are. You can change your position, you can rise up and see the world from a different point of view. You have the wings. All you need is the desire and self-confidence to fly. brings momentum. Flexibility and ability to expand your horizons, whether it is freedom to travel, freedom to make decisions at work, or freedom to splurge on your favorite meal, I'm getting goosebumps all over my freaking body when this card appears. You need to ask yourself some questions. In which areas of your life would you like to expand your freedom? What is your definition of freedom?

Keshia 12:55

Ooh.

Brooklyn 12:56

bulls everywhere. Ooh, I love that.

Keshia 13:00

my God. Well that fits really well with the two.

Brooklyn 13:04

It does

Keshia 13:05

Yep.

Brooklyn 13:05

is like, this is why I love spirit. This is why I love tarot. This is why I love astrology, is because you can sit there and pretend that it's not real, and then do this stuff like we didn't plan. Keisha just randomly pulled a card. I randomly pulled a card. And like, look how beautiful it just fit

Keshia 13:27

Yeah, and we didn't plan, well, we planned today,

Brooklyn 13:30

Mm-hmm.

Keshia 13:31

we didn't know what day we were actually gonna sit down and do this. And I realized this morning I'm having a transit that completely supports this, and it wasn't. Perfectly planned.

Brooklyn 13:41

No. Well,

Keshia 13:42

Like we just did it.

Brooklyn 13:43

weekend, but we weren't sure if it was gonna be Saturday or Sunday. And the fact that it just like happened to be. that we actually got our shit together.

Keshia 13:53

I mean, that's still up for debate, but like we're here

Brooklyn 13:58

Yeah, I had my period and I was taken out yesterday. So.

Keshia 14:02

and I, I work a 40 hour, hour work week, so by the end of the weekend I'm like. Or the week, I'm like, my spoons are gone. I don't have any left. My mental, my mental health is just gone. So, um, yeah, I, uh, it's, it's a wild ride. But I think like, as we move forward, um, it's also kind of calling us out a little bit with the podcast, like, you wanna do this, you want to, you enjoy this. So you either make time for it and make those decisions to make time for it, or you just don't do it.

Brooklyn 14:36

Yep. your hard

Keshia 14:38

Oh God. I hate that sentence actually. I love that sentence, but it's just, it bites me in the ass so much. Like constantly. I just was like, like living at home with people is hard, but so is living on your own.'cause then you have no help. Just like.

Brooklyn 14:55

Literally like when you live alone, you have more time to let things go and let things slide. Like for me, when I lived alone, oh my God, I would like let things slide, let things just pilled up and

Keshia 15:08

Yeah,

Brooklyn 15:10

And then when you live with people.

Keshia 15:12

especially a Virgo.

Brooklyn 15:14

Yep. You have certain responsibilities and just things have to be perfect.

Keshia 15:23

Yeah, I'm also living with a Virgo. It's driving me nuts.

Brooklyn 15:27

Yeah. They like things a certain way. So,

Keshia 15:30

Geez.

Brooklyn 15:30

I'm a Virgo rising, so I can let things slide until a certain, and then it just like eats me and then everything has to be set in order perfectly.

Keshia 15:39

You are also like a Virgo rising with the ruling planet being Mercury. So if you take that mercury and you add the flavor of a Libra where yours is, right, yours is in Libra, you're

Brooklyn 15:51

Yep.

Keshia 15:52

gonna get more of a people pleasing Virgo than a Capricorn rising,

Brooklyn 15:58

Shocker.

Keshia 16:00

right? Like.

Brooklyn 16:01

People pleasing me.

Keshia 16:03

Oh my. Why do you think we're friends? Why do you think we're friends? I think our friendship worked so well because we like met each other and then we would just, people please each other.

Brooklyn 16:13

Constantly. And like we fed off of it. So it was like, oh my God,

Keshia 16:18

We still do it like,

Brooklyn 16:19

that itch, I'll scratch your itch. And constantly

Keshia 16:22

yeah,

Brooklyn 16:22

feeding each other. Oh my God.

Keshia 16:24

got you this present so that I'm gonna get you a present. It is like, that doesn't need to happen.

Brooklyn 16:29

And it just keeps going and it just never stops. I'm

Keshia 16:33

But I think we've gotten to a point where we don't people please each other just to please each other in the friendship anymore.

Brooklyn 16:40

Yes,

Keshia 16:41

we've worked past that because it is important, like you have to have boundaries. Um, we don't have many.

Brooklyn 16:50

yes.

Keshia 16:51

Oh, did that just skip?

Brooklyn 16:53

No. Uh, I just got a text message

Keshia 16:55

Oh, okay.

Brooklyn 16:56

into my phone or into my computer.

Keshia 16:58

Oh, okay. Yeah,

Brooklyn 16:59

It's okay.

Keshia 17:00

for a second everything kind of froze and I was like, oh, we're going, oh hi Mercury.

Brooklyn 17:04

Literally, we'll see how that plays out.

Keshia 17:08

Now that we're starting, but they do say if you have Mercury retrograde in your chart, which I have, you don't, which is weird.

Brooklyn 17:16

I have no retrograde plans in my chart,

Keshia 17:19

Which is very weird. Is your, is your, are your nodes retrograde? Lemme look.

Brooklyn 17:25

I, I don't think so. I think they were just about to,'cause I think I.

Keshia 17:30

But you were born close to a Mars retrograde, so you have a very hard retrograde in your progression chart,

Brooklyn 17:38

Yes.

Keshia 17:39

is wild. Anyway,

Brooklyn 17:41

And didn't the Mars retrograde happen? I think it happened during the accident or right before the accident.

Keshia 17:47

would've been like weeks leading up to it. It was because I know somebody else born in that timeframe who actually has the Mars retrograde in their chart. So, yeah, if you're at the eighth, they were born the end of October. So they were It was already retrograde. Yeah, it was already retrograde.

Brooklyn 18:05

Mm-hmm.

Keshia 18:07

Um,

Brooklyn 18:08

been in the shadow phase of the retrograde,

Keshia 18:11

so like

Brooklyn 18:11

actually born in a

Keshia 18:13

Yeah. Isn't that

Brooklyn 18:15

weird.

Keshia 18:16

And that's the thing about astrology. There's never one layer.

Brooklyn 18:19

No.

Keshia 18:19

so many.

Brooklyn 18:21

And a weird thing that I came across today. So, um, I've recently been diving deep into a book of shadows because that's my new thing,

Keshia 18:35

Thing.

Brooklyn 18:36

just like exploring

Keshia 18:39

Oh, your,

Brooklyn 18:41

of things.

Keshia 18:42

your nodes are retrograde, but that's it.

Brooklyn 18:45

Oh, which.

Keshia 18:47

Nothing else. Looks like it was.

Brooklyn 18:49

Is it

Keshia 18:49

Lilith, but I don't think that matters. I don't know what that means to be honest.

Brooklyn 18:53

neither. We

Keshia 18:55

Not yet.

Brooklyn 18:56

enough

Keshia 18:56

We're still learning

Brooklyn 18:57

yet.

Keshia 18:58

anyway.

Brooklyn 18:59

But we love her, but

Keshia 19:01

love her.

Brooklyn 19:03

do

Keshia 19:03

her. Yeah.

Brooklyn 19:05

um, you don't wanna work. I don't think you would wanna work against her. I would rather

Keshia 19:09

No, I think there's, um, something to be said about algo, the thick star that my moon's on. I think it links to lith in some of the mythology, and I'm like, I feel that in my bones because there's a lot of feminists that have similar placements. I was like, feel that in my bones.

Brooklyn 19:31

it seems correct. So I recently found out that every birth hurt is unique to an individual with the replication, like where it can repeat. Every 26,000 years.

Keshia 19:49

That's the closest you can get to having a duplicate. Yeah. Unless you're twins. But also twins are minutes apart and things can change.

Brooklyn 19:56

literally, and how, like who, there was another, um, Astro person that did twins and just showed how different their lives were. Like Yeah, they were born minutes apart by the same person in the same time zone. they still have completely different lives,

Keshia 20:14

And it's how nur, it's nature versus nurture too, or like, is it nature versus nurture or is it, um, there's something to be said about the way people perceive things and no brain is the exact same. Really, so like nobody has your perception of things. Nobody has your experiences and the filter that you filter your viewpoint through. So if you apply that here, yeah, they're not gonna have the same life. They're just not, it's gonna hit differently. They're gonna react differently. They're gonna, everybody just. Experiences the world differently,

Brooklyn 20:53

Mm-hmm.

Keshia 20:53

I can't decide if that's incredibly lonely or cute. I don't know. Beautiful.

Brooklyn 21:00

empowering and unique. I don't know. I love seeing how. Every person is unique, but yet we can still come together. Like me and you, we are so different, but yet we can bond so deeply and have such ideas and come up with like similar. Like this morning, what did we, we

Keshia 21:23

Deodorant.

Brooklyn 21:24

same. Yes. We were literally just like talk, like get,'cause, uh. In our record mornings, we get ready together just to like set the vibe and we literally pulled out our deodorant at the same time to talk about it. And it was like we weren't even on deodorant. We were way past deodorant. We were like putting on our makeup and we both decided to talk about deodorant at the same fricking time.

Keshia 21:46

And I was like, have you seen this deodorant? It's Canadian. It's natural. I was, it actually works. My mom loves it. I bought her, I bought her one with mine. Anyway, she was like, I'm good. I got my crystal. I.

Brooklyn 22:01

Yeah. I use a crystal deodorant. It's like been my favorite for years.

Keshia 22:05

Yeah, I tried that once upon a time and like I couldn't get past the, the,

Brooklyn 22:11

The no deodorant. And it's, it's, it feels, it feels weird at first, I'm

Keshia 22:16

the detoxing that has to happen for it to work. Like you have to get all of that, like whatever is in the other deodorant outta your body and like I've noticed that. With a lot of deodorants, like when you switch, like it just takes time.

Brooklyn 22:32

Yep. Yep.

Keshia 22:34

it's,

Brooklyn 22:34

especially if you're using the same deodorant for, I almost said centuries, 40 years for centuries.

Keshia 22:41

maybe you're an ancient old witch who drinks the blood of men, Brooklyn,

Brooklyn 22:46

I

Keshia 22:46

who says they don't need deodorant?

Brooklyn 22:48

I don't use deodorant. I just use the blood of my victims.

Keshia 22:52

Oh my God.

Brooklyn 22:53

Just kidding.

Keshia 22:54

Don't say that stuff. You're too pretty for jail. Uh, disclaimer, we wouldn't be yelling about that on the podcast if it were true

Brooklyn 23:04

Obviously

Keshia 23:07

people. Crazy, man.

Brooklyn 23:09

people are crazy. I'm even more crazy though, so watch yourself.

Keshia 23:14

Oh man. I do say I'm the grounded one in the two. Who,

Brooklyn 23:18

I am all

Keshia 23:19

what happened there? My, it's like your spirit guides like tried to choke me out for saying that. I was like, so stupid. I love it.

Brooklyn 23:31

love it.

Keshia 23:34

Anyway, back to the tarot card. Um, so for me, um, decisions. I've been trying to decide if I'm going on vacation this year again. Um, which for people is like, oh my God, spoiled. But I mean, in the fact like the two options are either go on vacation or b start my chart readings that I've been putting off for years. So like, but I, it seems like the universe has taken that outta my hands'cause things have changed and my vacation's now getting canceled for, um. Reasons not my own, but like also I'm okay with the nudge. Like there's a lot of work I need to do so that time is time I can take from work now to work on something for myself. And I think that's some of the decision decisions you have to make in order to get your freedom because like I need something that's gonna fill my cup and make life worth living. And a nine to five. It is not that for somebody else, working for somebody else in another company. Like that's just not it for me. Um, the people I work with are fabulous. Like I am quite lucky. Um, I need another tissue. It's probably from not wearing makeup for like centuries.

Brooklyn 24:50

I know that's

Keshia 24:52

my God.

Brooklyn 24:52

now

Keshia 24:53

They're like,

Brooklyn 24:54

oh my God. It's been happening for centuries.

Keshia 24:56

been happening for centuries.

Brooklyn 25:01

I love it.

Keshia 25:01

It's never gonna die. It's never gonna die. That's going on a t-shirt

Brooklyn 25:06

oh my

Keshia 25:06

for centuries.

Brooklyn 25:08

centuries also. That's

Keshia 25:12

Write that down.

Brooklyn 25:12

the, yes, I will. That's like one of our things that I want to get started this fall is like making silly little t-shirts.'cause love t-shirts for one.

Keshia 25:22

I do, I do. I got one from Etsy and I paid way too much money for it, but it's like one of my favorite things.'cause it literally says, um. Baking because murder is wrong. And I baked bread yesterday'cause murder is wrong.

Brooklyn 25:38

It's so true. clean and cook because

Keshia 25:42

Yep.

Brooklyn 25:44

I'm too pretty for jail.

Keshia 25:47

I tell you all the time I can't visit you got too much anxiety. Can't visit you.

Brooklyn 25:51

And we can't do FaceTime in jail either. So.

Keshia 25:54

That's the only way we keep in touch. There's no WhatsApp. Lord, save us. Um, ooh, I just got chills. Um, yeah, where do, where, what else do we wanna talk about? About this freedom decisions? Oh, one thing that's really come up for me is, um,

Brooklyn 26:18

My recent freedom.

Keshia 26:20

oh, sure. For, for me, it's, uh. The amount of choice we have is a freedom most people do not get. Being paralyzed by freedom is a, uh, blessing.

Brooklyn 26:36

Well, and it's a real thing. Sometimes you have too much freedom. You're like, what do I do with this?

Keshia 26:41

paralyzed by choice is such a beautiful, spoiled way to have to live your life.

Brooklyn 26:48

mm-hmm.

Keshia 26:49

Because some people don't fucking get that, and I keep having to tell myself that when I get paralyzed. How lucky are you to be paralyzed by choices when you have so much freedom? And then I'm like, you know what? Okay. Maybe I let myself be in this free state for another day.'cause I will go into a free state. Like it's just my PTSD thing. Like, I, I can't move. That's part of the reason, like we don't get this done all the time is'cause by the end of the fucking week, you're out of spoons. Like I just talk to people all week, probably at therapy. Took my dog for a walk. I'm asleep for two days. Not really, it's probably video games, but.

Brooklyn 27:30

The

Keshia 27:31

Or tv.

Brooklyn 27:31

to sleep.

Keshia 27:32

Yeah. I, I need some numbing here. I went out in nature. I need something else. What were you gonna say? You were gonna say something else?

Brooklyn 27:41

Um,

Keshia 27:42

It's gone. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Brooklyn 27:44

gonna say my freedom was me being let go from my job. So it was forced freedom.

Keshia 27:49

Sorry to laugh, but we called it, we fucking called it in January. I was like, girl.

Brooklyn 27:56

and

Keshia 27:56

Mars is retrograding you. This is not gonna ha, this is not gonna last.

Brooklyn 28:01

And both of us thought it was me quitting, and then when I got actual fired, I was like the girl.

Keshia 28:09

I shouldn't be laughing, but I was like, are we surprised? I was like, why do we have the goal to be surprised? We fucking predicted this.

Brooklyn 28:16

Literally. So I've been. Doing good. I've been rocking out, trying different things, seeing what sticks, throwing things against the roof, seeing which

Keshia 28:27

isn't

Brooklyn 28:28

fall.

Keshia 28:29

it? Isn't it wall?

Brooklyn 28:30

No spaghetti on the roof. You've

Keshia 28:32

No. Isn't it spaghetti on the wall?

Brooklyn 28:34

Oh no. You wait. You throw it on the roof.

Keshia 28:36

No. You throw it on the wall. You tea me.

Brooklyn 28:42

And there's gonna be so many people that are be like, why are you throwing spaghetti?

Keshia 28:48

Why are you throwing spaghetti at the roof? You can't get her off the roof.

Brooklyn 28:53

Oh, and I'm thinking because in the basements that I used to live in the walls, we only had the roof. The walls were like

Keshia 29:02

Yeah.

Brooklyn 29:03

It was like wood,

Keshia 29:04

Yeah. I forgot about that.

Brooklyn 29:06

And I never actually thrown it on the roof,

Keshia 29:09

I've never thrown spaghetti at anything on purpose.

Brooklyn 29:12

that was like one of the things growing up was like my grandma, she'd be like, yeah, you just throw it on the roof and if it falls, it's not, you keep cooking it. If it doesn't fall, you're good to go. And I'm like, how do you get it off of the roof?

Keshia 29:23

Did she actually fricking do that? What

Brooklyn 29:27

Once or twice, like not very often, but occasionally.

Keshia 29:30

I've never, I've never, I've never done it on the wall, but like with my, what's the word I. Vertical challenged. I'm vertically challenged. I ain't throwing anything on the roof. I can't reach the top cupboard. I'm not doing that. Anyway

Brooklyn 29:49

Well, a

Keshia 29:50

happens,

Brooklyn 29:51

it on the roof because it's gonna fall down. You know, it needs to keep cooking.

Keshia 29:54

but what if it doesn't fall down and then you just go,

Brooklyn 29:56

you know it's done,

Keshia 29:57

you get a broom.

Brooklyn 29:59

you just wait for it to fall down or crust off,

Keshia 30:01

Yeah. I was like, what if it just drives?

Brooklyn 30:04

then you chip it off with a broom.

Keshia 30:10

Okay. I don't know where to go with this anymore.

Brooklyn 30:14

Spaghetti.

Keshia 30:16

Oh no. I want spaghetti. Um, ooh. All I Alfredo, um, K TAUs. Um, yeah, so she got fired.

Brooklyn 30:29

Yeah, so I've been just like chilling, exploring my options. Um. I found a new job, but it's part-time, so I've been looking for just something else to do during the week. Um,

Keshia 30:45

So Brooklyn's gonna take care of most of our editing, thank God, because she's the one that's talented with it. Anyway,

Brooklyn 30:51

Well, and I have so much free time.

Keshia 30:55

I'm over here just trying to survive.

Brooklyn 30:58

It's like, here, you don't need to work. Here you go.

Keshia 31:01

Like

Brooklyn 31:01

like, oh, okay.

Keshia 31:04

maybe

Brooklyn 31:05

it was an obvious, um,

Keshia 31:07

redirection.

Brooklyn 31:08

yes. Like, you

Keshia 31:10

Yeah.

Brooklyn 31:10

when something isn't right and then the universe is like,

Keshia 31:14

Screaming.

Brooklyn 31:15

now,

Keshia 31:15

Screaming. Yeah. Like you're like, like I know a lot of, yeah, I'm like waiting for that boot in the face, but I think I got one going into therapy, so I'm wondering if I've got another one coming. Because that was definitely a boot in the face, like 22, 20 22, 20 23. Like my nervous system just fucking crashed and like that's been building up. So I'm like, at what point do you think the universe is gonna drop? Kick me again?

Brooklyn 31:43

Yeah, it does happen occasionally. It doesn't happen all the time, but

Keshia 31:47

No, no.

Brooklyn 31:47

it, apparently

Keshia 31:49

like, I mean, yeah, I mean like, who am I? Right? Like I. I know, I mean it sometimes I get very, um, in my space

Brooklyn 32:00

Comfortable.

Keshia 32:01

is going into Gemini tomorrow for the first time with July 7th. So, um, it's gonna be there I think till October before it retrogrades back out. But yeah, that's a big transition. It only happens like every seven years and I know it's gonna make a big impact on my chart'cause it's going from a quiet place. Quiet, it's definitely responsible for the, uh, EMDR going through. So like,'cause like what, what is what says foundational shaking train change besides EMDR. And that's Uranus?

Brooklyn 32:40

like

Keshia 32:40

Yeah.

Brooklyn 32:41

rebuilt all of your structures.

Keshia 32:44

In my brain. Yeah, you're like completely remapping your brain and creating new neural pathways and like I'll tell my therapist I did something different and she's just like, oh, you're building new neural pathways. I'm like, I'm fucking exhausted. Okay.

Brooklyn 33:01

to nap for weeks.

Keshia 33:02

Yeah, like I'm like, cool. Can't say, can't post that on social media. Thank. Not getting married or buying a house, but I'm building new neuro pathways and I'm tired. Um, but to spin off of that, um, where it's going into Gemini now it's coming out of that quiet place in my chart, which actually had most of my planets. So it wasn't really quiet for me, but it's an internal spot in your chart. So it's behind the scenes and now it's going into a much more. Louder place in my first house. So I think, um, I'm nervous, but I'm like trying to be, you can't change it. It's coming.

Brooklyn 33:45

Yeah. Well, and what we've both learned with astrology is that it's gonna happen regardless,

Keshia 33:50

yeah.

Brooklyn 33:51

we can prepare for it all we want, but we're still not gonna be prepared.

Keshia 33:55

Yeah. It is probably not gonna be the way you think it is.

Brooklyn 33:57

It never is.

Keshia 33:58

No.

Brooklyn 33:59

It will be like with a hint, then there's a whole other aspect. You're like, how did

Keshia 34:05

Didn't see that coming in. Yeah. And I was like talking to Brooklyn about this, so I think I know what this transit is. I was like sending her WhatsApps. I wish I could save that video. I can't. Um, and an or flew by an orb. I've never had that happen before. It's just was like, I was like, I guess that's what the transit's about. We were like. Spirit, is that you? Is that you anyway?

Brooklyn 34:37

I know. It's so wild.

Keshia 34:39

Oh my God,

Brooklyn 34:39

wonderful though, just to like, it's comforting to know that we don't have control and stuff is just gonna happen way it was destined to happen,

Keshia 34:50

yeah.

Brooklyn 34:50

that we have like a little bit of free will. So if I do want to get in my car and go have an ice cream, I can.

Keshia 34:56

Imagine, imagine be like, we didn't have that type of free will. We were just like, I want an ice cream. Nope. Too bad. There'd just be a voice. You would be like, screw you, you're not getting your ice cream today. Too bad. Um, I'm really excited to, uh, dip into the world that is exact sical releasing, which is again, one of those layers of astrology. Because I want to see,'cause I've heard many times from both Chris Brennan through the podcast, I don't know these people, uh, Chris Brennan and Lisa Che talked about it on a lot of their podcasts on the Astrology podcast of how it challenges your view on fate and fortune and free will, fate, fortune, and free will like what you're born with, the fortune you're born with certain things being faded and where does free will come into it. And that's what I'm, I just, yeah. Fuck me up. Fuck me up for this. I wanna know.

Brooklyn 35:51

Definitely.

Keshia 35:52

Alright.

Brooklyn 35:52

like I told her this morning and I'm like, Free will? Because it was just like.

Keshia 35:59

Really though.

Brooklyn 36:00

we like, as much as we try to plan things like, and like, that's what I feel like our free will is, is like, yeah, we've planned everything. But then yesterday my cramps were too bad and I just needed, I just needed

Keshia 36:15

And hundreds of editing, like, what's the word? Obstacles, like we've,

Brooklyn 36:23

God.

Keshia 36:24

we haven't disappeared completely. We've been trying to get something out since February, and we still have them that I think we're gonna release, even though it's like slightly not greatly dated.

Brooklyn 36:36

It's not dated, it's

Keshia 36:37

No.

Brooklyn 36:38

it and it's a little bit, it's from February, but everything is still accurate and relevant,

Keshia 36:48

Yeah. So we're,

Brooklyn 36:50

eerie.

Keshia 36:51

and we put a lot, we put a lot of work into that episode. Like I think we still have a lot of learning to do as far as like our research and our, like the, I can't even use the word research now. Um.

Brooklyn 37:04

I, I use it too much now.

Keshia 37:07

Yeah,

Brooklyn 37:07

like, our research,

Keshia 37:10

somebody in our lives, I will not say who

Brooklyn 37:13

out.

Keshia 37:14

us out on it. It's not research. You're not in a scientific lab. And I was like,

Brooklyn 37:19

I

Keshia 37:20

valid.

Brooklyn 37:20

have a lab coat on As soon as I

Keshia 37:22

We

Brooklyn 37:22

house coat on,

Keshia 37:23

should just put, we should get like house coats that look like lab coats anyway. Um, and like, I mean, his point was valid in one way, but also it's just the easy way to, it's the easy way to describe it. It wasn't valid, um, from a technical standpoint. It was valid technical, but I don't know what else to.

Brooklyn 37:46

I feel like I have a microscope and a lab coat and all of the beacons, um, where you mix the tubes

Keshia 37:51

And Jesus Christ.

Brooklyn 37:53

like a mad scientist.

Keshia 37:55

Uh, um, yeah, I have to do with you. But, um, yeah. So, but we like, we have a lot to learn in that aspect of how we want to do and make sure accuracy and this, that and the other thing. So like, I mean, we got like things to learn, but I'm pretty proud of that episode. Um,

Brooklyn 38:16

Definitely.

Keshia 38:17

we've been trying, but. Again, it comes back to that fate free will. And a lot of times, a lot of the videos I've watched on, like, again, sical releasing, they talk about how, um, how it blurs those lines. Like what do we have control over? But a lot of the times it almost looks like you could be trying to do something and until the stars literally align. In a way so-called that term only broadly works here, but, um, it's true. Like until the stars line up in your chart, sometimes that wiggle room or that push forward doesn't actually happen or that space to do that thing isn't there.

Brooklyn 39:00

Yeah

Keshia 39:01

really interesting.

Brooklyn 39:02

it is.'cause it was so difficult for us. In like the first half of this year and the aspo, astrology, astrology podcast warned us and we knew

Keshia 39:14

they were like, don't try to do it.

Brooklyn 39:16

we knew it was gonna be a bumpy year, and we're like, we got each other, we got this, we still have each other. We've

Keshia 39:23

The podcast is like, man,

Brooklyn 39:25

It's been hanging on by a thread.

Keshia 39:27

like fingernails. I, speaking of fingernails, I haven't painted my nails in like three

Brooklyn 39:33

Bear nails. Oh

Keshia 39:34

Yeah, I know. I went out.

Brooklyn 39:36

people gonna

Keshia 39:37

Right. I went out to lunch with, uh, some friends from an old job or breakfast and they were, they all had their nails done and somebody commented like, oh, you guys all have beautiful nails. I was like,

Brooklyn 39:48

You're like

Keshia 39:49

they were like, are you okay? Yeah, I don't know. And now I'm scared to put anything on and be like, sensory overload.'cause it's been like two months anyway.

Brooklyn 40:01

I

Keshia 40:01

Uh, yeah. Since my birthday.

Brooklyn 40:03

I've been wanting to get fake nails again, but I'm like, I go back to that, that will drive me nuts.'cause now I'm just used to just like, as soon as they get like, oh my God, as soon as they get this long, I just like chop'em down

Keshia 40:19

Yeah.

Brooklyn 40:19

can like

Keshia 40:20

I like,

Brooklyn 40:20

my finger again,

Keshia 40:21

I've already filed these. Yeah. Oh my God. Anyway, we're good. Lucky, I guess, but it's annoying.

Brooklyn 40:30

I know. So annoying fingers, nails, women

Keshia 40:35

What

Brooklyn 40:36

well, just like how we are. Like we can't just like, well, we can just have basic nails and cut them down, but

Keshia 40:45

you think?

Brooklyn 40:46

of women, but the representation of women nowadays, like having nails and your hair

Keshia 40:52

Oh, like, you mean it feels like it has to be in order to be, in order to be well taken care of. Perhaps.

Brooklyn 40:59

yes.

Keshia 41:00

I,

Brooklyn 41:01

just me and I'm like,

Keshia 41:04

I struggled with this because like I was always a girly girl. I. Like, I loved all that shit, but I'm noticing that as I'm aging and also my brain's changing, you know, new neural pathways, fuck ice, uh, um, I'm noticing that. I'm like, I'm growing out of things, but I'm having a hard time letting'em go. Like, I know I don't really love having wing dialing anymore. Like it just doesn't quite feel right to me, but I'm too lazy to change it. You know what I mean? Like there's, there's things that I'm, I, I want to be doing aesthetically and I'm like, do I still want nails? And I think the important thing is whether or not you're doing it for you. And I think a lot of those questions are paralyzing my right now. And like you can see it in my chart with the Ven, the Venus being really active this year and like there's just a whole mess, mess of shit. That I've talked to Brooklyn about, about this, but I think that it's, it's coming from there. So I'm very much like, what's for me, what's for everybody else? I refuse to do any of this if it's not just for me. And then I also had like a little internet gremlin come at me about like my type of feminism. And then that made me question all my feminism. I'm like, you know what? As long as people are participating and believing that women need equal rights, I don't give what fuck what kind of feminism you have. It's, it's about equal rights. Guys, come on. Don't.

Brooklyn 42:35

can flip it. And just because we're white doesn't

Keshia 42:38

Yes.

Brooklyn 42:39

Wom white, womens white feminisms.

Keshia 42:43

Yeah. She called it white, white feminism. And I was like,

Brooklyn 42:49

And it's like, we are white. How are we supposed to take it any other way? Like

Keshia 42:53

I was like, I, but I am white.

Brooklyn 42:55

of other people,

Keshia 42:57

Yeah. I was like, I, I am white.

Brooklyn 42:59

who I am. We're trying to change the trajectory of the way that the way

Keshia 43:04

Yeah. But you know what?

Brooklyn 43:07

I can, and we're like, we can't. It's all, we can't change who we are because someone wants us to change who we are. Like this is the

Keshia 43:16

Yeah,

Brooklyn 43:17

This is

Keshia 43:18

exactly.

Brooklyn 43:19

this lifetime.

Keshia 43:20

Do you?

Brooklyn 43:21

leave it.

Keshia 43:22

But you know what I realized, like days after that I was like, that person had, uh, it's a, there's a name on the type of account where they, there's nothing descriptive about that person there. The only reason they could tell is'cause I have a profile picture. So I'm like, for all I knew you were a 40-year-old white man.

Brooklyn 43:41

Probably, probably.

Keshia 43:44

Criticizing the way that I do feminism just for a laugh, and I was like, that's actually pretty sad, man. I kind of feel bad for that person.

Brooklyn 43:51

I find that the ones that go after the feminists are either the young Privileged men that haven't experienced anything or the white old privileged men that haven't experienced anything and think that everything's about them, like both of'em. And those are the ones that I get attacked by, like, not physically attacked, but like troll attacks online. And then I'm like, your opinion does not matter because you don't come from where I'm coming from

Keshia 44:22

Yeah,

Brooklyn 44:23

I will take some time, but if you don't have the empathy to understand where I'm coming from, I'm not gonna be able to change your mind or

Keshia 44:34

no, and that's just it. If they don't have the perception or the empathy to even. Reflect and put themselves in your shoes. You're having a conversation that doesn't even, it's just a waste of your energy.

Brooklyn 44:43

Yep.

Keshia 44:44

heard, don't catch the ball of shit.'cause then you've also got shit on your hands. And I was like, I'm gonna use that or don't wrestle the pig in shit.'cause then you're also full of shit and only the pig enjoys it. Also, Justin aside, um, Fred is dreaming right now, so if you hear whining. He's fine. My dog is fine. He's just dreaming in the chair over there and his, he's like chasing a squirrel or something. His paws are doing this anyway.

Brooklyn 45:10

Uh, frolicking through

Keshia 45:12

just frolicking, uh, anyway, uh, should we tie up the episode for the day?

Brooklyn 45:19

Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to take it one more. so if you go deeper into the of two of wands

Keshia 45:29

Oh.

Brooklyn 45:29

in your career.

Keshia 45:31

Oh no.

Brooklyn 45:33

Planning your career,

Keshia 45:34

no.

Brooklyn 45:35

first steps in your career,

Keshia 45:37

no.

Brooklyn 45:37

your dreams. I'm like, oh my God, that is so cute.

Keshia 45:44

Oh, shit.

Brooklyn 45:47

what am I doing?

Keshia 45:50

We're both just like at an impasse too. I think. We're like, okay, we've been saying it for years. We either do it or we don't fucking do it.

Brooklyn 45:57

Yep. And we have found that this gives us so much joy. Like for me this morning, it was like Christmas morning, I was like so giddy, so excited.

Keshia 46:06

She like texted me. She was like, Hey. I was like, but she like won't say anything about the podcast. She's just like dipping her toe in trying to see if I'm awake.

Brooklyn 46:15

testing the water. Are

Keshia 46:17

Like, Hey, is, is your brain working today?

Brooklyn 46:21

When we hang out, I'm like the one that's up at like crack ass of dawn, like

Keshia 46:25

It is so bad guys.

Brooklyn 46:28

and like when we hung out, um, for her birthday, I would like go and just try to like let her wake up. But I'm like sitting there with my cup of coffee waiting for her. I'm like, she awake. Is she awake?

Keshia 46:38

She and like she, when we were together, she had blown up a bunch of balloons and they kept spontaneously popping in the middle of the night and like she sleeps through everything. So even though I'm the one that sleeps later, she sleeps harder somehow. Like I've never seen some. She slept through multiple balloons popping in Brooklyn. That's insane. Anyway,

Brooklyn 47:03

I am like dead at night, like dead asleep. Me.

Keshia 47:06

yeah, I

Brooklyn 47:07

I hit that pillow, I'm

Keshia 47:08

So she would wake up to my text. Did you hear that? She'd be like,

Brooklyn 47:14

hear nothing.

Keshia 47:15

I didn't hear that

Brooklyn 47:16

In the morning, I'd go clean up all the like balloons like that have

Keshia 47:19

so bad.

Brooklyn 47:20

Oh my God. I did not

Keshia 47:22

Oh,

Brooklyn 47:22

through. I

Keshia 47:23

so funny.

Brooklyn 47:23

happy that I didn't blow up all 200 balloons. It was only 15

Keshia 47:30

I helped with some of them and then I got like partway through and I was like, I don't think I'm sober enough for this.

Brooklyn 47:35

is the one that said, she's like, I don't know if this is a good idea. I don't think we should blow up all balloons. And then the next. It was either that night or the next morning, they slowly started to pop as like,'cause where we were staying, we were staying on a lake and it's all windows, so it would get super hot and it

Keshia 47:51

Oh my God.

Brooklyn 47:52

the balloons until they exploded.

Keshia 47:54

did get the AC working, but it was early enough in the year that it didn't matter.

Brooklyn 47:58

Thank God they

Keshia 47:59

The,

Brooklyn 47:59

got the AC going as we were leaving.

Keshia 48:02

yeah. That guy showed up and you're like, I was like

Brooklyn 48:05

Two

Keshia 48:05

naked in the room. She was like, don't come out.

Brooklyn 48:08

Two hours before we checked out, they came and

Keshia 48:10

Yeah.

Brooklyn 48:11

us and I'm like, now you check in on us. Thanks guys.

Keshia 48:14

I'm like, guys, we are leaving. I am pretty sure the neighbors were checking in on us, though. We're pretty sure they,

Brooklyn 48:20

definitely.

Keshia 48:21

the thing and it seemed like it might have been one of their cabins that we rented,

Brooklyn 48:25

Yep.

Keshia 48:26

but we were pretty mellow, like we're not.

Brooklyn 48:28

it was, it's us. People are

Keshia 48:30

It was us and desserts.

Brooklyn 48:32

literally

Keshia 48:33

Yeah, there was a lot of cake. Did you eat the rest of the cake yet?

Brooklyn 48:36

cake. didn't freeze very well. I know I still have one more slice. In the FRI freezer, you have to eat frozen, and it hurts my teeth, so

Keshia 48:47

You know what? If that one has to go in the garbage, I wouldn't be mad.

Brooklyn 48:51

I'm saving it for a hot day. I'm still not ready to let go of it.

Keshia 48:53

Okay. Okay. Um, anyway, I guess with that we'll get ready to sign off. Uh, did we wanna dive into anything else before we I don't think so.

Brooklyn 49:06

Um,

Keshia 49:08

There's always next time exercise.

Brooklyn 49:09

there's always next time, and right now I'm drawing a blank. I can't think of anything else.

Keshia 49:13

That's a sign from Spirit. We're gonna take that and dip out.

Brooklyn 49:17

Yep.

Keshia 49:19

Alright everyone, it was nice chatting with you. We hope you enjoyed and we hope to see you next time. Um, come back and chat with these two Geminis. Bye. Love you.